Friday, August 26, 2011

Cantor Spox Says Disaster Relief Should Be Paid For With Spending Cuts

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With Hurricane Bearing Down Cantor Spox Says Disaster Relief Should Be Paid For With Spending Cuts


House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA)

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Looks like House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) will extend his requirement that federal disaster relief be paid for by cutting spending elsewhere in the budget to Hurricane Irene.
"We aren't going to speculate on damage before it happens, period," his spokesperson Laena Fallon emails. "But, as you know, Eric has consistently said that additional funds for federal disaster relief ought to be offset with spending cuts."
This isn't just to lay a honeytrap for Cantor. Human toll aside, hurricane damage can be very expensive, and if against all hope Irene hits hard, this sort of parameter could put a severe dent in federal programs that are already stretched quite thin.

It's worth pointing out that his home state of Virginia is in the line of the storm, so this, just as with the relatively minor earthquake damage, could present him with a political conundrum. Even if his non-coastal district escapes unscathed, his fellow delegates will want federal aid post haste, sans Congressional wrangling over the budget. The statement is, to be fair, an "ought to," not a "must," so perhaps this will be revisited.
Late update: To underscore how real this scenario is, Gov. Bob McDonnell has declared a state of emergency in Virginia.
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  • whyisthere 13 hours ago
    That is OK just tell him to raise the capital in the open market and take whatever terms he is given.

    Should be no problem right? Offering people who lost everything and have no means of making money for a few months a couple billion dollars that need repayments to start in 30 days of issuance.

    Come on Cantor I dare you to tell your residents that they have to go out on the open market and get loans from banks to hekp rebuild from nothing because you refuse govt disaster relief.
  • George C 11 hours ago
    Easy.  When Bob McDonnell -- our Repub Governor -- asks for emergency aid, simply ask him what aid to Virginia he'd like cut.
  • bluestatedon 11 hours ago
    "simply ask him what aid to Virginia he'd like cut."

    YES! This is the perfect response. If Cantor's so opposed to gubbermint spending, then he needs to step up and itemize the federal dollars the capital of the Confederacy can do without.
  • Nat Froiland 11 hours ago
    But then he'll just tell them to cut state Medicaid aid or something. That wouldn't hurt Cantor, it would hurt his constituents.
  • kunda311 10 hours ago
    Apparently the way to hurt Cantor is to hurt his constituents, i.e. the morons who keep voting him into office. Too bad some upstanding folks have to get caught in that too.
  • bd22051 10 hours ago
    How much you want to bet that somehow Cantor's district will get money if it is necessary!
  • lockwood 4 hours ago
    Not taking that bet.  I know a wolf in sheep's clothing when I see one.
  • NerdRage 10 hours ago
    hmm, odd, i thought i posted in here, but i see my comment has disappeared...

    cantor is a prick, this won't go over well in rural VA where they lean very much to the Right...they'll see it as a betrayal

    but i'm also glad he has nothing to do with allocating any federal disaster relief funds...what a douche
  • Jackster2.0 10 hours ago
    Those big city easterners aren't real Virginians. Too close to the ocean with it's liberalating breezes.
  • lancelotlink09 9 hours ago
    Cantor obviously never heard about the hurricane that hit Amherst County in 1969 which killed 153 people and wiped out over 133 public bridges alone. According to Eric, screw you, we're not paying for your bridges, schools or anything else. Thank goodness the state has some others who can overrule the douchebag.

    He's over his high point, and is stuck believing his own propaganda. Still, I'd bet that in a war zone, he'd be shot by his own troops.
  • coodaygraw 7 hours ago
    Are you really gonna start that "REAL" crap again, last time i checked virginia was a state in "THE UNITED STATES " gotta be a tea partier
  • azmod1950 11 hours ago
    You sir are right on the money.  Cantor is such a pinhead!
  • brig1930 10 hours ago
    I know this isn't workable in theory, but still, I'd say fine, Cantor. We'll cut ALL funding to your district for everything to help offset this.  Yes, it will hurt those that didn't vote for this ass, but what better way to send a message to voters in that district to get off their collective arses and vote this soulless bastard out? It's the only way, because Cantor himself will never "get it".  He isn't capable of it.
  • Captain Crunch 9 hours ago
    +1
  • henricks36 6 hours ago
    I wouldn't even ask.  Let's cut every federal dollar going to Virgina to pay for all the potential damage that's gonna be done by the hurricane.  If there is any money left over it can go towards the debt.  Obama can send Cantor a Thank You for leading by example and let Cantor explain the cuts to his constituents.
  • May Irene hit his district hard and long.
  • oskieoskie 13 hours ago
    Spox? Is that the guy with the pointy ears?
  • NCSteve 3.0 13 hours ago
    Vulcans are intelligent and ethical.  They'd never work for a sociopathic halfwit.
  • oskieoskie 12 hours ago
    Logical.
  • mikedrevguy 12 hours ago
    Fascinating
  • Bobby Schmidt 11 hours ago
    The needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few.
  • allaboutgeorge 10 hours ago
    Or the one.
  • Kamilaahh 9 hours ago
    Unfortunately in this case, the  needs of the few (and very rich) outweigh the needs of the suffering many.

    What. An. Ass.
  • Adzeguze 12 hours ago
    Yes, but Spock was only half-Vulcan, and therefore subject to human emotion and ethical frailty.  Maybe this Spox is his less ethical brother we never heard about?  Or his alt. dimension twin (the one with the nasty Fu Manchu beard)?
  • cant-make-omelette 12 hours ago
    It's Spox plural, so maybe both of them.
  • bluestatedon 11 hours ago
    Cantor isn't a Vulcan, he's a Romulan.
  • I beg to differ. He's as Ferengi as they come.
  • CareySub 10 hours ago
    But not one of the smart successful ones. The Ferengi equivalent of someone's idiot brother.
  • ElRonbo 10 hours ago
    So, Rom.
  • Captain Crunch 9 hours ago

    From the Dominion!  He's Jem'Hadar!


  • qantumreflection1 7 hours ago
    We do not reveal ourselves as readily as these...
  • qantumreflection1 7 hours ago
    And it is quite evident, Cantor and Spox are Pakled...
  • AdAbsurdum 11 hours ago
    Perhaps they meant "Cantor spooks," which is well the case with the world financial markets.
  • opus-duh 10 hours ago
    These guys can't get 'spokes' right.  Never could... never will.  It is not spox... it's spokes.
  • The Totalizer 9 hours ago
    Maybe these guys meant "Cantor's pox:  If there's damage..."
  • Backcountry 13 hours ago
    That's OK, Eric. Most of the areas that'll need relief are red states anyway.

    Maybe the storm will plow right into Virginia. Then you can explain to your constituents why you fixed it so there won't be any help for them.
  • NCSteve 3.0 12 hours ago
    Well, if it wiped out Pat Robertson's enclave, leveled Liberty University and put Cantor's district under a foot of water, it would sure go a long way toward resolving that whole "is there a God?" controversy.
  • AZskeptic 12 hours ago
    Actually I think the real controversy is how many Republican pinheads can dance on an angel.
  • eztempo 11 hours ago
    +1  (ha-ha-ha)
  • ReformedRep 11 hours ago
    LOL!!! Perfect
  • boonedaisy 11 hours ago
    Brilliant NCSteve!

    This really does go well below the pale. I mean, earlier in the year you had Ryan and the republicans vote to gut all the entitlements, Rubio, last night, telling everyone entitlements has made America weaker, and now this smarmy little jerk saying this. Seriously? This is what we want for our great America to become. A nation that turns it back on the very poorest, the elderly and sick? All for the sake of money. It doesn't get more depraved than this.
  • cwnidog 10 hours ago
    If that happened, I might need to reconsider my atheism. To me, it would be a sure sign that Mithra is real.
  • NCSteve 3.0 10 hours ago
    Or that karma, like coffee and oatmeal, really does come in instant.
  • Greg Vitercik 9 hours ago
    Don't worry - there's very little justice in this world, judicial or supernatural.
  • eve cairo 10 hours ago
    They would just say God did it because he was upset there were some gays, women who'd had abortions, and some card playin ceegar smokin gamblers who used to go to church but don't no more.
  • oskieoskie 9 hours ago
    Take all of Virginia, and good riddance.
  • SLBinVA 7 hours ago
    Easy for you to say, jackass.  May your ill will toward Virginia redound to your state tenfold.
  • Jackster2.0 9 hours ago
    No, Just who's side "He's" really on.
  • bethreese59 7 hours ago
    You are so right!
  • Hey, we in Maryland are firmly Blue, and we are in the path!
  • PearlyWhite 13 hours ago
    How about we pay the Storm gods by staking Eric Cantor to the beach where Irene is coming ashore?  Will that appease the spending cut acolytes?
  • Air_Boss 13 hours ago
    Time to lash that SOB ideologue to pier at Norfolk and see how fast he cries for aid.
  • BlindBat 13 hours ago
    OK - start saving by cutting Federal highway funds in Cantor's district. Maybe start closing some post offices there, too.
  • DoremusJessup20 12 hours ago
    Close down Planned Parenthood, that should do the trick.
  • Adzeguze 12 hours ago
    I'd think closing down the meth interdiction program would clear more room.
  • How bout no more money for all those Civil War battlefields. Sell em' off!
  • lancelotlink09 9 hours ago
    Cantor would be happy about that, I'm sure.
  • Adzeguze 7 hours ago
    At least one big one already is privatized.  Can't remember if it is the Wilderness or not, but I visited there and was stunned to find out it was owned by a private group whose views weren't always exactly mainstream.
  • SLBinVA 7 hours ago
    A good many of them are privately owned already.  That's the great problem -- developers keep wanting to buy them up for shopping centers and such, and the historic preservationists have to scramble to try to raise money to buy up the property.
  • fargo116 13 hours ago
    "Cantor Spox: If There’s Hurricane Damage, Costs Will Have To Be Paid For With Spending Cuts"

    Unless his house gets damaged.
  • +1
  • MsInformed 11 hours ago
    Is he financially still betting against T-bonds?
  • AdAbsurdum 12 hours ago
    Do they ever switch from hostage-taking mode?
  • NCSteve 3.0 12 hours ago
    Sure.  When they go to hostage-killing mode.
  • Libertine 12 hours ago
    Why should they?  With Obama it is a proven success in terms of being a tactic.
  • NCSteve 3.0 12 hours ago
    Damn that Obama for saving the hostages!
  • DoremusJessup20 12 hours ago
    Libertine, you've got a one track mind.  I've seen right wing teabaggers less obsessed with Obama.
  • robinwitch 11 hours ago
    And how do you know Libertine isn't a right wing teabagger? It takes very little intelligence to do a passable imitation of a left wing loon, after all (to imitate a real left-winger would be much more difficult, plus it wouldn't take them where they want to go).
  • DoremusJessup20 11 hours ago
    Libertine has been posting here for years.
  • Libertine 5 hours ago
    I am focusing on Obama because he is allegedly part of the same liberal movement I call home.  I have my doubts about him lately though.  I unfortunately have to agree with both Paul Krugman and Bruce Bartlett when they say based on his record that he is governing somewhere to the right of Eisenhower and Nixon.  I wonder if he had to do it now whether Obama would create an agency like EPA.  For all the ways Nixon sucked, and there are too many to count in this lifetime, he actually did create the EPA...and proposed HCR with a public option.  Go figure...

    Am I that off base to ask that Obama embrace his inner liberal, if he has any within him, and at least move to the political left of Eisenhower and Nixon?

    Thanks for setting the record straight on me with robinwitch tho...
  • DoremusJessup20 5 hours ago
    The problem with comparing Obama to the ghosts of Presidents past is that it often ignores the conditions in the country at the time.  Someone made this point the other day much more eloquently but Nixon's domestic policies were due to his own triangulation, he was much more focused on foreign affairs.  If the Cuyahoga river was on fire today and there was a tearful Indian on television commercials, I'm sure Obama would be behind the creation of the EPA.

    I've been wanting to apologize to you for occasionally making our disagreements too personal.  You're good people.  That doesn't mean I agree with turning a thread about Eric Cantor's mental illness into yet another debate about the public option.
  • Libertine 4 hours ago
    Yeah sorry about the Obama jab but in reality the way he has dealt with the R's has encouraged the scumbags to take even more hostages.  But even when Cantor makes me believe he can't be any lower form of life than the snake that he is, he goes and proves me wrong.  Cantor, and all the Republicans who think like him and they are legion, are the perfect example of the worst of humanity

    And I appreciate the kind words about me as a person...the feeling is likewise even when we do disagree.
  • kenmeltzer 12 hours ago
    Why is the defense of our country on our own soil given a lower priority than defending it elsewhere?
  • Lynn Terre 12 hours ago
    +100
  • Pronoic 11 hours ago
    Quiet your blasphemous mouth. They take people to Guantanamo Bay for less.

    (+1)
  • boonedaisy 12 hours ago
    I don't mean any harm to Virginians, but Cantor is due some major comeuppance. I really hate this guy.
  • JJRothery 11 hours ago
    Maybe we can convince everyone else to leave the state, and then Eric can fend for himself when the water starts a-comin'.

    Have to say, I've never wished for a building to be leveled as much as I'd like to see his home and constituency office razed by this storm.  It's too bad we can't program the hurricane to just do that...
  • bethreese59 10 hours ago
    You are so right. There are no words for this scum.
  • FreemanBW 9 hours ago
    I don't mean any harm to Virginians, but Cantor is due some major comeuppance. I really hate this guy.

    Maybe the NOAA can find room for Cantor on a hunter flight into Irene on one of their renowned NOAA WP-3D Orions and shoot him out one of the sensor launch tubes from about 26,000' just beyond the eye-wall.
  • FawkesFOX 12 hours ago
    "But, as you know, Eric has consistently said that additional funds for federal disaster relief ought to be offset with spending cuts."


    Oh that's easy. Just take it out of the FEMA budget. Oh wait...not FEMA...um... NOAA. Cut the NOAA budget. No that wouldn't work, either. First responders maybe? Is there a way to get rid of a whole bunch of first responders and save money?
  • biged242 12 hours ago
    I hear tell that there are still a few bucks laying about in the "food for poor, hungry kids" fund.  We can use that money to rebuild all the rich folks beach front second, or third, homes.  The regular folks who have their homes destroyed will just have to suck it, however.
  • nope, better idea... if he wants spending cuts, start with HIS pay... worthless gasbag doesn't do anyone but his  lobbyists any good at all.
  • George C 11 hours ago
    Too late on the NOAA bit: we're cutting back on the weather satellites so our ability to forecast these suckers will be decimated starting in 2012.
  • pavoter64 12 hours ago
    I guess we could cut it from the money being spent to rebuild in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Or simply unleash the spirit of free enterprise in Virginia to make everything whole.  I am sure Republicans will be lining up to donate in the spirit of charity.
  • ossiningaling 12 hours ago
    Since Virginia gets 50% in revenue than it pays in taxes, I don't see why this can't be arranged
  • Okay.. I'll bite. Let's start with his salary and continue on to closing down the Norfolk Navy base.
  • Adzeguze 12 hours ago
    And farm subsidies, particularly to whatever is grown in Cantor's district.  And rural electrification/internet/sewer/water treatment support.
  • Metzengerstein 11 hours ago
    Tobacco, probably.
  • gwestdallas 12 hours ago
    Hi Eric. Meet my friend Reality.
  • mikedrevguy 12 hours ago
    It's only a government handout when it happens to poor people.  when it happens to rich white folks - it's government necessity
  • Handypants2 12 hours ago
    Now he is just saying that on purpose. He can't be serious.
  • Handypants2 12 hours ago
    No kiddin, let's start with cutting those oil and gas subsidies, and every tax loophole corporations use to avoid paying taxes.

    That'd be a start.
  • jaboobyville 12 hours ago
    I hope the hurricane flattens Cantor's house and leaves everything else untouched.
  • He lives in the rich West End of Richmond.  Surrounded by wealthy Republicans.  Richmond may see 30-50 mph winds from Irene.
  • jaboobyville 12 hours ago
    Hey, I can dream.
  • he''ll be apopluar guy.  I hope cantor  is renting in DC
  • First of all, this seemingly outrageous position is an obvious given from one who supports a balanced budget amendment, isn't it?  Wouldn't any unforeseen expenditure have to be offset by cuts in planned spending?   But it's even better than that.  I think this earlier comment was on the right track:

    "OK - start saving by cutting Federal highway funds in Cantor's district. Maybe start closing some post offices there, too."

    This would be an elegant solution, perfectly aligned with conservatives' other preference for State-level government action rather than Federal government intervention (e.g. Perry's comment about making the Federal government "inconsequential" in our lives). 
  • ossiningaling 12 hours ago
    Too bad Bush gave our rainy day fund back to the wealthiest Americans in the form of tax cut.
  • As a resident of south Louisiana....F*ck that guy. 
    Wish I could say something more intelligent, but I'm not sure if an intelligent response is possible to that.
  • acf_ma 9 hours ago
    Now you understand the attitude that made the tragedy of Hurricane Katrina to south Louisiana so bad. It wasn't a case of Brownie being so bad, it was a matter that they didn't want to help. It was only after the public pressure brought on the Bush administration after all the media coverage of the unfolding human disaster, that they started to bring some help to the area.  Bush was too busy raising money, eating barbecue, and cutting brush to be concerned about it. It was arguably the thing that rubbed the Teflon off the Bush presidency and started events that led to the 2006 and 2008 elections.
  • Adzeguze 7 hours ago
    Don't forget flying in to give McCain a birthday cake.
  • boilinabag 12 hours ago
    if you ever needed to see the face of a true a-hole, cantor is poster boy.....  when will you baggers wake up and see that the GOP is the true enemy of the USA.
  • Kaneblues 12 hours ago
    This is where the denial of climate change pays off for republicans.  Every natural disaster is simply another reason to cut and dismantle the government.
  • robinwitch 11 hours ago
    And the results of every natural disaster are simply another reason to write blank checks to their friends to clean up the mess.
  • JJRothery 11 hours ago
    How much do we want to wager first ones in there are Blackwater/Xe?
  • eztempo 11 hours ago
    +1
  • historianess 12 hours ago
    Funny, I don't recall any GOPers threatening to withhold aid after Katrina. Oh right. That was a GOP President with a GOP Congress, and LA is a GOP state. Now with a Democratic president, apparently Cantor thinks it's OK to withhold storm aid from NC, VA, NY, MA, CT, RI, and ME--all states that voted for Obama. What an asshole.
  • except New Orleans is heavily Democratic, and Louisiana had a Democratic governor at the time.

    And if you'll recall, no one THREATENED to withhold aid from New Orleans because they were too busy ACTUALLY screwing up the aid. PLEASE don't act like the response to Katrina is some shining example of how government should react in a crises. Do you really think Virginians want the same treatment New Orleans got?
  • enon.2011 11 hours ago
    if it clears out all the poors -- esp the black ones, you can bet your ass ol virginny would be pleased...
  • Greg Vitercik 9 hours ago
    They spent lots of money - it just didn't really turn into this "aid" thing you mention.
  • draftedin68 12 hours ago

    I vote to make the cuts by removing ALL law enforcement from Congressional offices.

    BTW, Eric, what are your proposed cuts to take care of the quake damage in YOUR district?

  • ImpureScience 12 hours ago
    I'm sure there are a few corporate welfare type programs in VA that could use some judicious pruning...
  • frustum 12 hours ago
    When Buffett said that the government should raise his taxes, many on the right wailed: you go first, chump.  Well, that should apply here too.  Cantor should proactively refuse all government funds for anything in his district.
  • kanthom2000 11 hours ago
    Does Eric Cantor not understand that after North Carolina, Irene is projected to take a path across the most heavily populated area of the United States, including NYC. Does he not get that? He tried this same crap after the tornadoes this Spring, equating human life and loss with budget cuts. This man has no humanity.
  • draftedin68 11 hours ago

    The genetic defect that causes rabid conservatism also prevents the development of a sense of humanity.

    There can be no other explanation.

  • jeffgee 11 hours ago
    An Ayn Rand chip implant?
  • Greg Vitercik 9 hours ago
    They are all the product of our ancestors cross-breeding with Neanderthals; they hate humans - with some justification, it must be admitted...
  • kanthom2000 8 hours ago
    I think that is a distinct possibility. My son thinks it's cultural. I'm thinking genetic.
  • Greg Vitercik 9 hours ago
    NYC is full of liberals, gays, and non-Anglo-Saxons.  There is almost no "human" population that Cantor would recognize.  Not that that would make any difference to him...
  • DownriverDem 11 hours ago
    Who the F does Cantor think he is?  What an A-hole.
  • awfullyquiet 11 hours ago
    I unfortunately say:

    Let it happen.

    I hate that it has to come to playing politics with peoples lives, but for Reagan's sake, something in reality has to get to them. If Virginia and Richmond takes quite a hit from Irene, and he's like, 'nope. no aid for you', i can imagine the shitstorm will be bigger than irene.
  • I wouldn't count on it. The people who continue to support Repubs like Cantor will never change. Ever.
    It's Red Team vs. Blue Team forevermore, and nothing will ever convince them to stop rooting wholeheartedly for their team.
    They would cut off their faces to spite their noses.
  • bethreese59 10 hours ago
    There is a chance that Irene might go right over Richmond-would serve the putz right
  • LongMemory 11 hours ago
    Actually, there was a congressman who voted against post-Katrina aid -- some jerk from the midwest -- and when his district was struck by a tornado a few months later he was calling for aid. His excuse, as I recall, was that those people in N.O. knew what could happen. His constituents, on the other hand, had not inkling they might be in a tornado's path.
  • investorb 11 hours ago
    And they had the foresight to not be poor and black or brown.
  • Adzeguze 7 hours ago
    Ted Stevens from Alaska similarly through a hissy fit over diverting funds from Alaskan highway construction to Katrina (his infamous "No! whine is available, I'm sure) only to turn around and keep hitting the Feds up for aid for all sorts of aid.
  • JDinBalt 11 hours ago
    Does anyone doubt for a second that he will find some way to get disaster relief to conservative districts "on the sly" if he can?
  • He is going to ride this tired trope to his detriment. Personally, if he makes any attempt to block funds for disaster relief, he should be brought up for recall, or impeached for violating his oath to uphold the Constitution, specifically seeing to the "General Welfare." It is time Americans made an example of a GOP mouthpiece, and this man is a perfect fit for a tar-and-feather suit.
  • Adzeguze 7 hours ago
    You cannot be impeached as a member of Congress.  You cannot be recalled.  You also can't be term limited. Only the chambers themselves can set the rules of conduct, and only they can expell you for misconduct (which, sadly, stupidity does not count as).
  • valgal23 11 hours ago
    Eric just begs to have that stupid smile smacked right off of his face.
  • streamer771 9 hours ago
    He does need a good "bitch" slap doesn't he?
  • Kaneblues 11 hours ago
    More republican hostage strategy:

    Give us our cuts, or we'll bring the economy to its knees. 
    Give us our cuts, or we'll make the victims of natual disaster suffer.
    Give us our cuts, or we'll oppose any legislation to create jobs.
  • Michael Ruschak 11 hours ago
    Lets give them their cuts!  Cut all Senators,Judges and Congressmens salaries by 50 %. ELIMINATE their pay for LIFE when they retire. Eliminate their health insurance for LIFE when they retire. Lift their immunity from prosecution in cases of CONFLICT OF INTEREST concerning insider stock trading. Cut their staffs by 50%. Make them pay 50% of their health coverage. NO PENSION, but they can pay into a 401k. And you know what? Not ONE OF THESE BASTARDS will quit? Know why? This will still be a WAY better deal than most people get in the magical "private sector" that retardicans say government should emulate. We should just fire them all (ala Patco and St. Reagan) and make them all private contractors for $8.00 an hour. Like the von Kock brothers want to do to our entire countries workforce.
  • It could be "Give us our cuts, or we'll kill your children" and he and other Repubs nationwide would continue to win the support of massive amounts of fools.

    Anyone who is still voting Republican at the federal level will never ever succumb to reason. Cantor et al have figured this out and will forevermore be holding anything and everything hostage. This is only the tip of the iceberg.
  • bashing-robins 11 hours ago
    Cut him (Cantor) into lit pieces and sell him as shark bait (on eBay). Profit of the sales can be used for disaster relief (in his home state). There that was easy enough - next pressing issue please.
  • Sorry but you're not allowed to sell human body parts on ebay. It's on their forbidden items list.

    Good idea, otherwise.
  • Oscar Homolka 11 hours ago
    Maybe if his state gets stomped by Irene (in addition to the problems created by the earthquake), he'll stand behind his "No without spending cuts" and the 'people' will vote him out of office in the next election.
  • jeffgee 11 hours ago
    Eric wants cuts? Start with corporate welfare and subsidies.
    What a shanda.
  • juliagrey. 11 hours ago
    He's afraid that government spending without offsetting cuts might STIMULATE THE ECONOMY.

    And we can't have an improving economy when the Presidency is at stake, can we?
  • Patwari 11 hours ago
    Government should stay out of the business of redistribution of wealth, and that includes disaster relief. Disaster relief should be totally voluntary, and people should not expect anything from the government. Hey, that's how they do it in Somalia, and they still have a country last time I checked.
  • Jackster2.0 10 hours ago
    I hear it's beautiful this time of year.
  • cwnidog 10 hours ago
    Hey, that's how they do it in Somalia, and they still have a country last time I checked.
    Barely, and would you want to live there?
  • Lestatdelc 8 hours ago
    Me thinks the snark meter needs adjusting.
  • TheSpineless 11 hours ago
    An earthquake and a hurricane will hit Virginia all within one week... Is someone trying to tell us something?

    There are those who seem to enjoy saying natural disasters happen because of xyz, so why should this be any different? This is all happening because of Eric Cantor and Pat Robertson!!! Get rid of them, and all of this will stop!
  • jfields 10 hours ago
    Absolutely no federal aid should be given to Virginia without ironclad agreements in place with Cantor, to the effect that he will not politicize the debt ceiling or any similar issues, ever again. Period, paragraph.


    You want states' rights to be the rule of the day, little Eric? Live by the sword, die by the sword.
  • Jackster2.0 10 hours ago
    In case of severe hurricane damage, just do nothing. Spend no money to help rebuild the infrastructure or aid businesses affected. Problem solved. No need to divert moneys away from the unemployed, sick and homeless. Unless not making repairs will cause unemployment, illness and homelessness. My brain hurts.
  • Bruce Basile 10 hours ago
    God I hate this smug little prick!
  • DoremusJessup20 9 hours ago
    +1 Me too.
  • Well, I've been wondering about it previously--he seemed like a reasonable guy on Jon Stewart (Stewart called it "the most boring Seder ever")--but this makes it official:  Cantor is a flaming arsehole.  Virginians:  boot him.
  • SLBinVA 7 hours ago
    If it were up to all Virginians, that might happen, but it's only up to the people in his district.  Remains to be seen if his tight-fistedness over the earthquake and coming hurricane damage will change enough minds to make a difference in 2012.  But it would take an awful lot of damage to do that, and it would be nice if there was a less painful way for the 7th District to realize what a self-centered prick Cantor is.
  • kunda311 10 hours ago
    Yes, Teapublicans... please keep this up and make sure the people remember Katrina, the one thing that finally began souring this nation on GWB and the Teapublicans. By all means keep this up and pledge no support for the little people unless their lazy-making benefits are cut too. Methinks America has not seen through your b.s. fully yet, so please help us.
  • mark_ca 10 hours ago
    For the first time ever, I'm actually rooting for the Hurricane to hit an area (his district).
  • Janet Bohn 10 hours ago
    As some one who saw Hurricane Charley come through and rip Charlotte County and the two cities of Port Charlotte and Punta Gorda to shreds I really hope Cantor gets a dose of reality.  Disaster relief first responders were neighbors checking up on their neighbors. Second responders were local police, fire and utility.  Third responders were FEMA.  Fourth responders were utility companies from unaffected counties in the state and nearby other states.  People lived in shelters for weeks trying to figure out where to live, how to eat, how to make a living and how to start putting their lives back together.  The people who needed the help the most were your average middle class working stiff and the elderly.  Shame on you Eric Cantor for putting a price tag on our compassion and humanity.  Oh, and by the way, I think from last I heard the Federal Government still owes Charlotte County some reimbursement $$ from Hurricane Charley....now I don't know about anyone else but is 7 years just a little to long before this debt gets paid?
  • crankyboomer 9 hours ago
    "Shame on you Eric Cantor for putting a price tag on our compassion and humanity.  "  This is what I was thinking. Thank you for saying it.
  • SLBinVA 7 hours ago
    Until you said "Port Charlotte," I thought you were talking about Charlotte County, Virginia.  But there certainly are no ports in Charlotte County, VA!
  • RedshiftX 10 hours ago
    if against all hope Irene hits hard, this sort of parameter could put a
    severe dent in federal programs that are already stretched quite thin.


    A feature, not a bug. These assholes are constantly looking for excuses to cut any federal spending that doesn't go to their rich friends and contributors. He's just doing his best to make it so that cuts triggered by the suffering of the American people are no longer considered "outrageous and inhumane" but "serious and fiscally responsible."
  • Greg Vitercik 9 hours ago
    Programs are stretched quite thin because revenues are too low to provide the services that only a federal government can provide.  It's like saying, "geez, this credit card bill is enormous; I'd better quit my job."  Seriously nuts.
  • zooruth 10 hours ago
    Well, they can start by cutting the salary and benefits of all the members of Congress. If teachers, firemen and policemen can have their salaries and pensions cut, why not members of Congress? If Healthcare is not a right but a privilege, then members of Congress have not earned their privilege. Eliminate their health care benefits and eliminate the medical services they get right in the Capitol building. That should provide a good start for helping out folks who need assistance from hurricane damage.
  • matthew88 10 hours ago
    Eric Cantor is engaging in the most disturbing, heartless, cruel, politically tone deaf rhetoric and partisan attacks imaginable. To deny federal aid to American citizens impacted by what is promised to be a devastating natural disaster is unconscionable. Cantor needs to resign immediately.. Although perhaps he would be having a different mindset if this hurricane were to hit, say, deep red South Carolina, a top GOP primary state and a Tea Party haven.
  • AnswerFrog 10 hours ago
    Let these fuckers tell disaster victims in *red states* to drop dead. I think all these assholes will find out what their fantasy of cruel and excessive cuts in discretionary spending really mean.

  • AnswerFrog 10 hours ago
    I have an idea: Maybe Cantor can tour the disaster zones handing out bootstraps?
  • Jackster2.0 10 hours ago
    We meant the "Darkies" NOT ME! I'm Hungry, My legs broke, My trailer's gone. Cut off them "others"...I need halp y'all!
  • DoremusJessup20 9 hours ago
    I wonder how much Federal assistance will be paid out as a result of the draughts in the Midwest.
  • awfullyquiet 8 hours ago
    Or Texas for that matter.
  • Adzeguze 7 hours ago
    If Perry had his way, FEMA would have done nothing but help Texas, despite all his bitching about the big bad government.  He got a record amount of aid, then had the balls to complain when FEMA didn't break its own rules to give him more.  Him and Cantor would make quite the team.  That is, at turning our nation into a living hell.
  • ElRonbo 10 hours ago
    For everyone praying that the Dems would call this bluff:

    When nothing gets rebuilt, because the funds were withheld, you know the meme would be "that darn incompetent Obama, can't get anything done".

    No, the only answer is to go along with them, but demand the cuts come from defense.  And push for revenue: cut oil company tax breaks, or a new capital gains bracket on the million-dollar-plus unearned income club.

    Get populist on 'em.
  • AnswerFrog 10 hours ago
    I keep thinking back to Ronnie Raygun's quip that the scariest words in the English language are: I'm from the federal govt and I'm here to help.

    I would think disaster victims wouldn't find that scary. Maybe the superrich find it scary that the govt are out helping the rabble with "my tax dollars".
  • fletc3her 10 hours ago
    That's some of the blame America first thinking we're always hearing people complain about.
  • Jackster2.0 10 hours ago
    C'mon now that would require courage...
  • nowhereman 10 hours ago
    Sophie has made her choice.

    Cantor.
  • bethreese59 10 hours ago
    Brilliant!
  • I never thought I would say this, but I am actually surprised with how open the Republicans are being right now. They are outright admitting that they want no tax increases at all on corporations or the ultra rich. They state the main priority is preventing our President's re-election,  not to better the nation and the world. Now we see more hostage taking.
  • SLBinVA 7 hours ago
    Yeah; as often as something trivial gets played up into some major embarassment,  you'd think something that big would really come back to hurt the, wouldn't you?
  • sebastianelli 10 hours ago
    would love to pres obama kick their ass next fall but i know its a long shot but do the people really want to go back to  the bush
    years how stupid  are they! god its unbelievable !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Jackster2.0 10 hours ago
    They got they're new shrub, just prettier. Flowers and the sweet smell of ignorance.
  • SAA_44 5 hours ago
    And don't forget the chaps! Problem with Perry is that he is much more hat than cowboy!
  • truckystiv 10 hours ago
    If ever there was a time for Presidential leadership, it is now.  President Obama needs to call an immediate press conference this afternoon and flat out smack the rhetorical shit out of Cantor.  Directly.  By name.  He ought to declare firmly and without reservation that Americans will NEVER tie conditions to helping other Americans in time of emergency and that even suggesting conditions or hostage taking on the edge of a potential natural disaster is so disgusting that he will not entertain further conversation on the topic.  Figuratively slam the door as forcefully and directly on this unprecedented level of  bullshit here, now and forever.  Politically, this is just the latest chance to absolutely crush these fanatics with their own words and deeds.  Just take if, for once!

    Throwing in a "so fuck off, Canto" would be utterly un-presidential but would secure him reelection.

    Thoughts and good karma to the folks watching Irene approach.
  • BonzoDog1 10 hours ago
    I can't think of a more unAmerican statement. Cantor misses the whole point -- that despite decades of the GOP trying to split us apart, when a disaster strikes we always work together and politics is put aside.
    And here he is before the magnitude of Irene is even known, trying to make brownie points with the TEA Party.
    (And speaking of Brownie, I bet Cantor longs for the days when a politically connected Arabian horse expert could be put in charge of the federal emergency management.)
  • SLBinVA 7 hours ago
    Well said.
  • fletc3her 10 hours ago
    Cantor's position strikes me as immoral.

    And as always I can't help but wonder where these guys were when the war authorizations were being argued.
  • bearclaw 9 hours ago
    But don't you remember -- we were told by Bush's OMB Director (Mitch Daniels!!!) that a war with Iraq would cost $50-60 billion.  And remember this (among other feats of crystal-ball gazing by Bushies):

    "The United States is very committed to helping Iraq recover from the conflict, but Iraq will not require sustained aid."

    Mitchell Daniels, director
    White House Office of Management and Budget
    April 21, 2003
  • PenNotSword 10 hours ago
    I used to think this guy was a piece of schit, not anymore.  After much thought and soul searching, I have revised my opinion--he is a d0ouche.  If, in fact, Virginia receives anything over a dollar for every dollar it pays into the federal government, the money it gets back should immediately be dropped to $1.  This northerner doesn't want this guy's state to get a single penny more than it pays.
  • agavecasa 10 hours ago
    I think we should fully respect Tea Bagger-supporting Virginians' desire for smaller government and austerity by allowing Virginians themselves to pay for and deal with the damages, relief and reconstruction resulting from any impending disaster they may experience.  No need to cut anything elsewhere to pay for any kind of disaster relief; it's time to allow these self-sufficient people to show us all 'how it's done.'
  • Greg Vitercik 9 hours ago
    Great idea.  They can lead the way by volunteering - just like they want Buffet to.
  • Pat McCoy 10 hours ago
    Cantor must be brain dead. What other possible explanation is there for this crazy position?
  • yodacohen 10 hours ago
    Maybe Irene will huff and will puff and will blow Cantor's house down.  Would love to hear what his spokesperson says then when he can't get federal aid to rebuild.
  • Robert A. Kezelis 10 hours ago
    Cantor is either amoral or immoral. I cannot decide which one. But with crap like this, he deserves the upcoming shyte storm that will overwhelm him.
  • smitallica 9 hours ago
    So earthquakes are now a political football?
    Jesus. The fucking BALLS on these people.
  • hank10303 9 hours ago
    If Cantor finds his house has been blown away (as we can be assured he won't be anywhere on the each coast when the storm hits - coward is written all over his face), what will he do, pull himself up by the boot straps?
  • I agree with Cantor here, if any damage is done to his district and it needs federal help, let the cuts come from his same district. That's only fair.

    First let's itemize to his constituents what services they will lose for each level of storm damage. Level 1? only libraries are shut down, level 5? Hospitals will have to go too, it's only fair.

    What a maroon.
  • Disgusted But Hopeful 9 hours ago
    I'm with Cantor on this one.  The first thing to be cut must be spending in the tax code.  You know:  cut deductions for corporate jets, cut deductions for oil subsidies.  That should be enough.  For now.
  • streamer771 9 hours ago
    Watching the Navy move it's Atlantic Fleet out to sea to avoid yet another hurricane, I can't help to think of moving the fleet out of Norfolk to a more sheltered port like Boston or Portmouth N.H. The Navy would save tons of money,protect the Fleet from the possibility of more frequent and powerful storms likely as the result of climate change and screw Virginia out of all those Fed dollars spent in Cantor's state.
  • HarryBowman 5 hours ago
    New London, Connecticut is nice.. deep water, and already some US Navy facilities there...
  • suzdav 9 hours ago
    Does this guy have a clue how DESPICABLE he is???
  • Lestatdelc 9 hours ago
    What the fuck is wrong with these people?

    I'm serious. What is wrong with these people?

    I can begrudgingly accept that people have a different view of economic theory, or fiscal priorities, but now disaster relief has to be offset with spending cuts?

    Total sociopathic nonsense.
  • bearclaw 9 hours ago
    "911 -- What's your emergency?"

    "Armed men have broken into my house.  They are holding my wife and kids hostage.  Please . . . send the police!"

    "Thank you, sir.  We will dispatch officers to your address as soon as you identify which of the following City services you will give up in order to pay for the police to save your family:  (a) street paving; (b) snow removal; (c) fire department; (d) sewer construction and maintenance; or (e) parks."
  • Lestatdelc 8 hours ago
    The sick part is, your admittedly funny quip is not fundamentally different than what he is saying.
  • bearclaw 6 hours ago
    Except that Cantor will propose to pay for earthquake and hurricane relief in his district by taking services or benefits away from someone else.
  • Lestatdelc 5 hours ago
    Exactly. The downside of taxes diffusing cost nationally on the Federal level. Makes it so easy for scum like Cantor to demagogue on the base instincts of others that his constituents are being ripped off with bad government spending on "others" (read "welfare queens, pointy headed liberals, etc.)

    Of course, Virginia is a state that gets more in Federal dollars than they put in (as of 2010).
  • HarryBowman 5 hours ago
    Virginia is unusual as a state in terms of the federal budget, because it contains substantial parts of the federal government itself.  Like the Pentagon.
  • bearclaw 5 hours ago
    If we can reduce the Pentagon to a quadrilateral, that is an immediate 20% savings, right?

    That should pay for FEMA's budget for years to come . . .
  • pjkool 9 hours ago
    It seems like the Republicans want to take the U.S. to a Haiti type status where we aren't even capable of responding to a natural disaster as a nation.  The conservative mindset is seriously twisted.
  • lily.b.mar 8 hours ago
    Such ugliness.
    How does one fight such intransigence, such stupidity.
    Makes one feel ill.
  • SAA_44 5 hours ago
    One fights such intransigence by voting for the opponent of such persons in the coming election. only 13 % of the electorate approves of this Congress. Folks like Cantor and Boehner are very vulnerable. Polls are beginning to show a growing likelihood that the Democrats will take back the House in 2012. At least Nancy Pelosi can make her people toe the line.
  • Cantor and McDonnell went to visit Mineral, VA yesterday where there was earthquake damage and some people were hurt.  Betcha neither said anything about what should be cut to help those people.  Hypocrites.
  • big_o_other 8 hours ago
    How about Cantor give up HIS salary, his staff, his perks, his health care. Next: what to cut, what to cut? Oh, I know, the military contractors, CIA agents, and others who make up the vast bulk of the employed in N. Virginia. Shut down Langley, at least for a while... Lay off some military contractors, analysts, etc. who all live in the VA 'burbs of DC....
  • jerihelene 7 hours ago
    My son posted this on his facebook page, and I thought it might be appropriate for this conversation:


    People who need a punch in the * face affect the lives of many.
    There is still no known cure for people who need a punch in the *
    face except for a punch in the * face. there are people who won't re-post
    this. Why? Because THEY probably need a punch in the *face. Won't
    you help these poor people who are desperately looking for a punch in
    the * face?
  • lockwood 4 hours ago
    You son needs to not post this.  Sounds anarchic.  Not helpful.. Both of you need to grow up.
  • onecrankydem 7 hours ago
    Just taking their Franking allowance would put a real hurt on Cantorand all the rest. Let them spend their money paying for postage to help stimulate the capitalist way.

     We thought Bush was cold with his "Flyover" of the Katrina disaster but to hold his own State hostage until they give up what could end up having been either blown or washed away or both. By the time he is done people will lose their benefits if they own a TV or a Car just because they aren't poor enough by his standards. Someone really should ask him how he defines poor or deserving of help ? I have my doubts he would ever put himself in any place where he would have to answer that question, but I would love to hear his answer.
  • SLBinVA 7 hours ago
    It's worth pointing out that his home state of Virginia is in the line
    of the storm, so this, just as with the relatively minor earthquake
    damage, could present him with a political conundrum.


    Minor earthquake damage overall, perhaps, but the epicenter of this one is in Cantor's district, and the damage in some of Louisa County was not so minor.  Louisa High School appears to have had major structural damage -- pictures on last night's local news showed buckled cinderblock walls inside the building.  There was a lot of damage in the town of Mineral, too, which was only about 5 miles from the epicenter of the quake.  But it will probably be another couple of weeks before there's a full estimate of the damage.

    It will be interesting to see how the area reacts if their Congressman more or less shrugs and say, "Sorry, there's no money to help you out."
  • RichardSchatten 6 hours ago
    No Disaster Relief!!!....unless is where he lives.
    Then he'll make sure he gets "Every Penny's Worth".
    "I need that Money!!!"...sorry Congressman, we can't do it, unless we cut spending!..."screw spending, give me my Money!!!!"
  • Libertine 5 hours ago
    So this is Cantor's vision of what America is all about?  Unless you can pay for it yourself you are on your own suckas!!!  What an asshat.  Reason #132,672 of what is wrong with the Republicans.  America a country of "me" and not "we (the people)".
  • Paul1950 5 hours ago
    Since Virginia gets $1.51 in federal spending for every dollar they pay in taxes, I think the cuts to pay for the diaster should come from the money spent in Virginia. For some reason I bet Canter would not like my proposal.

    http://www.taxfoundation.org/r...
  • Drummond 5 hours ago
    This is from The Onion, right?
  • kenmor 5 hours ago
    Ok, Cantor.  When the Congress gets back in two weeks and when Boner brings it to the floor for cuts, it will not
    get by the Senate for six months.  If that's what you want, Eric.  You own it, buttfuck.  I hope he is standing right in the
    middle of this hurricane with a target on his back.  Give MoNature a good whack at you.
  • gamedayaggie 5 hours ago
    Another reason not to have a balance budget amendment. Republicans have no grasp on governance.
  • shoshonecreek 4 hours ago
    Cantor was a coward in College...a real whoosie.....and he's a coward in congress.   Cantor doesn't have the grapes to specify the cuts to fund the disaster relief to save our fellow Americans.  

    Cover the disaster relief by cutting the salaries, retirement pension, and retirement health care plan for all Republican members of congress......they'll vote NO and call such a move a tax increase.
  • lockwood 4 hours ago
    You think they are human, NOT.  Certainly having a Jew promote Christian morality is a stretch.  I love both Christians and Jews, cause Christ was a Jew,  however, Cantor is just a bad human.
  • lazingaro 4 hours ago
    What a dick.
  • boyoboy 3 hours ago
    Let's withhold aid to Israel, too.
  • diggywiddit 3 hours ago
    To call this man a douchebag is an affront to all douchebags out there.
  • BigJonny 2 hours ago
    Yeah, Cantor had better pray there isn't any real damage.
  • Barbara Ann Stevenson 2 hours ago
    Just how far does Cantor think he can push the people of this nation? If this is bad and he plays politics...frankly...it could get ugly.
  • borisjimbo Just now
    I hope it takes out his trailer.

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