Friday, August 26, 2011

For Some in G.O.P., a Tax Cut Not Worth Embracing

August 25, 2011

For Some in G.O.P., a Tax Cut Not Worth Embracing

WASHINGTON — It is hard to find a tax cut that Congressional Republicans dislike. Unless it is a tax cut pushed by President Obama.
In a turning of the tax policy tables, Democrats are increasingly hammering on Republicans who oppose the president’s proposal to extend for a year a payroll tax cut passed last year with bipartisan support.
That tax cut — which reduces workers’ contributions to Social Security this year to 4.2 percent of wages, from 6.2 percent — expires in December. The White House would like to extend it for another year. But Republicans in Congress are balking, arguing that such a cut adds needlessly to the nation’s budget deficit, and should be replaced with an overhaul of tax policy instead.
“All tax relief is not created equal,” said Brad Dayspring, a spokesman for Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia, the House majority leader. “If the goal is job creation, Leader Cantor has long believed that there are better ways to grow the economy and create jobs than temporary payroll tax relief.”
After battles over the debt ceiling and tax policy, in which Republicans asserted that they would abide no tax increase, Democrats are equal parts incensed by this nuanced policy position and pleased with the opportunity to bang the other party over the head with it.
“One way or another, there will be a vote on extending these tax cuts,” said Senator Charles E. Schumer of New York, the third-ranking Senate Democrat, “and Republicans will have to stand up to the fact if they oppose it they are for tax cuts for the rich but not for the middle class.”
Lower- and middle-income workers are the greatest beneficiaries of the tax cut. The cut resulted in $67.2 billion of lost revenue for Social Security in 2011 and a total cost of $111.7 billion spread over 10 years. The rate will return to previous levels on Jan. 1 if Congress does not extend the cut.
Mr. Obama, whose administration is also mulling a similar tax cut for employers, has repeatedly cited the payroll tax as a cornerstone of his economic agenda “We can cut payroll taxes again,” he said last weekend in his weekly public address, “so families have an extra $1,000 to spend.”
The Republican candidates for president, all of whom have taken strong antitax positions, are eager not to be jammed on the issue. “I think the payroll tax cut is a good thing,” Jon M. Huntsman Jr., the former Utah governor, said in an interview with PBS on Thursday morning. “It helps a whole lot of people,” he added, saying he “would consider extending it.”
Mitt Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, last year wrote in an opinion article for USA Today that the payroll tax cut “will add to the deficit.” But in a recent interview with Fox TV, he softened that, saying, “I’m all in favor of keeping taxes down and keeping burdens down on American businesses and employers.”
While the tax cut is almost certain to become a bargaining chip this year among the members of a special Congressional committee charged with reducing the deficit by up to $1.5 trillion, Mr. Schumer said the Senate might vote on the matter, forcing Republicans to choose whether to vote against lower taxes.
A spokesman for Grover Norquist, who as leader of Americans for Tax Reform is the author of a no-tax-increase pledge that scores of Congressional Republicans have signed, expressed ambivalence about the cut.
“One could argue that therefore allowing it to lapse was not a tax hike,” said John Kartch, a spokesman for the group. “But safer to either continue the lower rate or cut some other tax rate by the same total amount so that any change was revenue neutral.”
Democrats note that Republicans had no problem extending the so-called Bush tax cuts of 2001, even though those cuts were also originally designated as temporary.
“This seems to be one of those situations where, since Obama says yes, we say no,” Representative Chris Van Hollen, a Democrat from Maryland who is a member of the special committee, said of Republicans. “It doesn’t make sense in any other context.”
Economists are divided about the payroll tax cut extension. Some liberals fear that using general fund money to cover the lost revenue for Social Security puts the program at risk of turning into a welfare-like program rather than an entitlement program supported by payroll taxes.
Others believe, however, that the tax is simply regressive.
Republicans argue that the tax cut robs Social Security of money without providing job growth or other benefits of a broader tax policy overhaul.
“Clearly it puts money in people’s pockets, and that’s good,” said Sage Eastman, a spokesman for Representative Dave Camp of Michigan, a Republican member of the special committee. “But it doesn’t have impact on growing the economy and creating jobs, and that’s what our tax policy reform ought to be focused on.”
Michael D. Shear and Carl Hulse contributed reporting.
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1.
atozcom
Las Vegas
August 25th, 2011
11:32 pm
A "Payroll" tax cut is a net loser! Payroll tax is the employer/employee contribution to the Social Security. This tax cut causes less money go into the Social Security fund. Also less money to into the employee's own SS account, which means lees money in the future. A real tax cut is a tax rate cut. This is like the credit card company give you a "skip a payment holiday". You really didn't get any advantage.
2.
Leon
USC
August 25th, 2011
11:33 pm
What will it take for people to most Americans to realize that the GOP is not out to help them. You may see some comments here bashing Republicans but are you really angry at the right people? I mean think about. Ever since Obama became president and tried to get the country back on track all they have done is try to destroy him to make him look weak even if it has disastrous results for the economy.
They opposed everything, cried 'Socialism' at the top of their lungs, and manipulated extremely ignorant people into believeing there was some plot by Obama to destroy America. Then what happens? they get voted in by a landslide. They nearly plunged this economy because of their obsession of not raising taxes on millionaires and now what happens?? Obama wants to cut taxes for a majority of Americans and the GOP says no it doesnt go far enough on cutting taxes for the top 1%. As angry as I am everytime I see something like this with the Republicans I am equally disgusted at the stupidity of so many Americans who dont see what the GOP is up to. Yet you keep voting them in even though they have shown that their number one goal is to destroy Obama even if it means itll take America down in flames. Whose really the problem here? The GOP or the people who keep putting them into office??
3.
Donna
NY
August 25th, 2011
11:34 pm
The Republican rationale for not extending the payroll tax cut is indefensible. When are voters going to see them for what they are and send them packing?!
4.
Zoover
San Francisco, California
August 26th, 2011
12:22 am
A tax cut for the lower and middle income earners pumps money back into the economy, since these people spend it on food, housing, transportation, etc. Tax cuts for businesses and the wealthy just mean that they hold on to more savings. We've seen this time and time again over the last 30 years, but for some reason people still believe in "trickle down" theory. Trickle down is a failure. It's tax cuts for the lower and middle incomes that "trickle up."
5.
Bellingham
August 26th, 2011
12:23 am
How does putting ~$1k in people's pockets not help the economy? I thought that was the thinking behind all those stimulus checks they wrote out not so long ago...?
6.
gr33
san antonio, tx
August 26th, 2011
12:23 am
Payroll tax cut... what a joke this tax cut was made for the middle class, anyone who is a hourly employee and makes 30,000 or under a year knows we got no break!!
7.
Wilder
Plano, TX
August 26th, 2011
1:15 am
It's way past time that the President stood up to these bullies, tighten his belt, get the Democratic leaders and party, and the people riled up and get something done.
We elected what we thought was a leader.
I want to see a good plan and some action!
Lead, follow or get out of the way.
8.
charlie
ogden, utah
August 26th, 2011
1:15 am
#5, sorry, but anyone who could afford to -- most middle income folk -- are using the cut to either add to savings or pay down debt. It is not -- look around you -- stimulating anything. The tax cut should not be extended. It will only make Social Security even less fiscally viable later on and give the GOP more reason to claim SS is adding to the deficit and should be cut.
9.
alterego
san francisco
August 26th, 2011
2:17 am
Where are all the jobs Bush's tax cut and its later extension were supposed to create? Wealthy people can already buy everything they want and need, and therefore tax cuts for them don't do much to stimulate the economy. The idea that giving working poor and the middle class a payroll tax break isn't good for the economy, while debatable, isn't even the point. The point is, it's good for the average American to bring home larger paychecks while the economy is so weak. Don't we get any consideration, or is financial favoring only for the wealthy, who don't need it?
10.
IllinoisBoy
Illinois
August 26th, 2011
2:17 am
The GOP position has nothing to do with Obama.

The GOP has been conducting class warfare for the past 30 years. It believes in government of the rich, by the rich and for the rich. It believes that government should only help the people that, from its perspective, count and should force the rest of us to pay their bills.

The GOP wants to repeal the 20th century. It wants an Ayn Rand utopia that honors those who it considers superior because they inherited wealth and wants the rest of us to be compliant nameless and faceless cogs in the machine who have no time to protest society's ills because we need to spend every second working to survive.

In other words, the GOP is pure evil.

Dems barking about how the GOP is anti-Obama are losing sight of the big picture. But they will bark, while the GOP focuses on the big picture and continues to work as hard as it can to destroy Americans' lives.
11.
Seattle
August 26th, 2011
2:17 am
Grover Norquist and his gang of thieves are reprehensible and irresponsible. Somehow, not extending the Bush tax cuts to millionaires, forgoing $1 trillion in revenue, is a "tax hike" -- and no one in his camp proposes an offset, by cutting spending on the military by that amount. However, a modest extension of the payroll tax cut, putting a few hundreds of dollars in the pockets of the working poor, is denounced as a frightening addition to our deficit.
When will Obama stand up to these bullies? Surely our eloquent President can tell it like it is to the American people.
12.
j. a. laswick
Springfield, IL
August 26th, 2011
2:17 am
This is not an efficient way to put spending money into pockets of the people who most need it, and who will quickly spend it, namely, the unemployed and those whose paychecks are so tiny that the rebate is proportionately tiny. Far better would be a direct $1000 gift to every owner of a social security number, accompanied by a repeal of the capital gains rate, and new higher marginal income tax rates kicking in at, say, $1,000,000, $10,000,000, $50,000,000, and on up to above $1,000,000,000.

Of course, this is too fair to have a chance of enactment.
13.
Bruce
Oakland, CA
August 26th, 2011
2:17 am
#8, putting money into savings or paying down debt means that money goes to someone who makes it available for investment to stimulate the economy. Conversely, using money to give someone a job could mean that money is going into savings or paying down debt. The economy does not stop just at a convenient level for a particular argument.
14.
HT
NYC
August 26th, 2011
2:17 am
Extend the Bush tax cuts for the rich but end the payroll tax cuts for the rest. Hold the treasury market hostage and drive the country into recession to make the president look bad. Can the GOP possibly stoop any lower? I've seen pimps, junkies and gambling addicts who have stronger moral fiber than guys like Eric Cantor.
15.
Tallahassee
August 26th, 2011
2:17 am
So, according to Republicans, extending tax cuts to the middle and lower classes hurts our economy, but extending tax cuts to the wealthy helps it. And people still vote for these charlatans? Give me a break!
16.
dan
Montana
August 26th, 2011
2:17 am
Honestly, is anyone surprised by the Republican position here? Another example of Republican congresspeople sacrificing the middle class while they protect the wealthy. The parsing of words by Grover Norquist's talking head is reprehensible.
17.
Quandry
LI, NY
August 26th, 2011
2:17 am
...Of course, it's only a tax if the tax applies to those making over $250k a year. In reality, the $1,000 payroll tax cut is more likely to be spent as disposable income, than the hedge fund's principals spending their millions above their 15% tithe!
18.
CCookhouston
Houston
August 26th, 2011
2:17 am
The single focus by GOP to defeat Obama is no less than tragic since it detracts from the critical need to govern. It is mind numbing to watch. I see Rick Perry being touted as a savvy businessman who created more jobs than any other state. Perry simply has nothing to do with job creation and everything to do with shady politics, yet he leads the GOP. Very scary.
19.
Brian
San Pedro
August 26th, 2011
2:17 am
This is getting weird and disturbing. The Republicans are against any policy that will stimulate the economy and/or help Obama. There is no downside to Obama using his executive power to its full extent. The Republicans have only helped themselves with their intransigence. This is a zero sum game, a fact understood by Perry. Why not push all the buttons of the Republicans and "Independents" because they have left the Left.
20.
Palo Alto, California
August 26th, 2011
2:17 am
If the payroll tax cut is so great, why not permanently eliminate the payroll taxes and correspondingly also eliminate social security?
21.
robert
brooklyn
August 26th, 2011
2:17 am
If Obama doesn't ram this glaring hypocrisy down the GOP's throats I will lose what little respect I have left for him. Well, okay, I have no respect left for him. But maybe I could still get some.

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